Aquí les dejo este hallazgo arqueológico. Un cuadrito del 5 y 6 del año de la pera. Presumo que es la década de los setentas. ¿Alguien que haya jugado el 5 y 6 en esa época lo puede confirmar?
El formulario de los años setenta tenía una presentación «landscape» en vez de «portrait» como el mostrado en la foto. Este último salió a la luz a comienzos de los ochenta, quizás a finales de los 70…
¿En los 70 nada más?. En los 80 también era algo parecido. Yo recuerdo que a veces iba al sellado con mi abuela -Q.E.P.D- a comprar formularios así, y después le cambiaron el diseño y en vez de ser forma vertical como la de la gráfica, lo pusieron de forma horizontal.
Mi abuela era muy fanática a estos juegos de caballo, hasta una vez pegó los 6 y le dieron una pelota de real para entonces, creo que fue por allá por el 66 o 67. Y yo «cuando era chamo», tenía como 7 u 8 llene un formulario de poquito real, sin saber nada de nada y pegué 5, pero nunca me llamó la atención este tipo de juegos.
Hola. Ese cuadrito del «5 y 6», lo selle con mi abuelita en enero de 1979, en la panaderia que habia en El Paraiso, Av. Paéz, frente al edificio City Park. Recuerdo mucho las carreras de caballos los domingos, las cuales comentaba «Ali Kan» en el canal 2 «RCTV»
Cuantas cosas han cambiado en 30 años…
Gracias, Javier. Por publicarlo en este magnífico espacio WEB «Cuando era chamo»
Me ha hecho muy felíz compartirlo con todos.
Saludos.
Francisco A.
:mrgreen: tremendo mi pana…ese es de finales de lo 70 y tambien del 80 el anterior tenia otra presentacion lo digo porque trabaje en un sellado de 5 y 6 como listero me encargaba de anotar cada cuadro sellado en una lista de 20 columnas alli anotaba el serial de la maquina, el Nº de reunion,el consecutivo, el valor del formulario y el serial del mismo(notese que todo esto lo imprimia la maquina al lado derecho del formulario ) figurense todo un trabajon desde la 7 am hasta la 1 am por una paga de 40 bs recuerdo de lo que me gane un dia inverti 24 bs y pegue los seis caballos me gane 4000 bs todo un realero ,todavia recuerdo los nombres de los caballos para la epoca: EL Phanton ,pleito,librepensador ,papa viejo,guadamil,valdarim v.gracias amigo por hacerme recordar tan buenos momentos.
…QUIEN NO RECUERDA ESOS CUADRITOS…..RECUERDO QUE SELLE (SIENDO CHAMO) UNOS CUANTOS PERO NUNCA HACIA UNO MAYOR DE 8 BS…LA MAYORIA DE 4 BS. QUE ERA LO MINIMO…LO HACIA SOLO PARA VER CUANTOS PEGABA…UNA VEZ ACERTE 5 Y PAGO TAN POCO QUE CON LO QUE ME DIERON COMPRE CREO QUE FUERON UNA DOCENA DE DULCES EN LA PANADERIA Y DE LOS PEQUEÑOS…..QUE TAL???…QUE BALURDO ……………COMO DECIAMOS ANTES…..
pues este cuadro es del año 87…alli donde dice serial siempre aparecia primero el año..igual que en los LP´s …a mi me encantaba decifrar este tipo de nomenclatura tan larga…algunas veces podia otras no…saludos y gracias por tantisimos recuerdos….lo del catecismo y el libro para aprender a leer me hicieron pero flipar y volar años atras…
saludos
@Francisco:
Ciertamente supe que las ccarreras hípicas las transmitía RCTV en los 70, mas yo recuerdo más estas carreras ya en el canal 8 VTV (claro, cuando era decente :sad: ¡ah mundo cuando era mundo!)
Eso no es nada yo tengo uno lleno , pero que nunca se llegó a sellar , del 88 que tenia el 5y6 y el superhipico. aun lo conservo.
y lo curioso es que tambien tenia 8 bolos -:eek:
De 10 opiniones, dos nombran a sus abuelitas… que curioso, mi linda viejita que dios tenga en su gloria también era full fanática de que le fuese a sellar su cuadrito! Varias veces pegó 5 con montos «mas o menitos» pero nada como el día que al fin pegó 6 y le dieron una platamentazón (era mucho, muuuuucho real), el único beneficiario fuí yo pues diligentemente iba cada domingo a sellarle su cuadrito, ser buen nieto sin esperar nada a cambio si paga, jeje…
diosss…!!!!
que recuerdos, mi abuelita Q.E.P.D, era fanatica de hacer su cuadrito y por un tiempo me mantuvo tambien pendiente de hacer el mio para luego ir al sellado juntos.
tiempos aquellos memorables. por cierto 2 veces pegamos 6 pero los montos fueron bajos porque ganaron los favoritos.
abrazos a todos los colegas de 30 y dele y sigan refrescando nuestras memorias.
habia un cuadrito anterior en el que se escribian los nombres de los caballos en unos recuadros, no se si alguno se recuerda. Despues vino otro formulario que venía con un juego adicional que se llamaba «marcador», se jugaba en la ultima valida, tenías que adivinar el orden del primero al quinto en esa valida. No crean que soy muy viejo pero mi primera carrera la vi en el año 1969, el clasico «SIMON BOLIVAR», ganado por «DON FLORESTAN», por cierto lo vi desde una subida que habia en la panamericana por que era menor y no me dejaron entrar al hipodromo. Quien se acuerda los jueves nocturnos en la rinconada? Que delicia…….Soy un hípico muy apasionado, pero nada que ver con el hipismo de antaño (que sabrosura). El que tenia puros de carreras era por que de verdad tenia plata, no como ahora que cualquier hijo de la patria tiene uno.
yo conocí el de los 80’s que era todo anaranjadito y horizontal… iba con mi papá todos los domingos en la mañana a comprar pan y a «sellar un cuadrito»… recuerdo que mi papá una vez pegó 5! :D
Me trae buenos recuerdos porque era algo «especial» que hacía con mi papá, al que adoraba en esa época…
Había uno mas viejo que el de la foto. Era en posición vertical y uno tenía que escribir el o los nombres de los caballos que uno seleccionaba. En caso de jugarlos todos, recuerdo que uno escribía «TODOS».
Abajo aparecia un juego llamado, el marcador, que consistía en marcar la llegada de la ultima valida, en estricto orden del primero al quinto y uno se ganaba 100.000 Bs. más lo que pagara el 5 y 6. Estoy hablando de finales de los 60 y comienzos de los 70!!!!
dios que recuerdos, bastante que jugue mis cuadritos de 8 bs, o de 16 cuando mucho, a veces gane , pero mas fue lo perdido, me encantaba ver monitor hipico por el canal 8, aunque al pricipio eran por rctv como bien dijeron por aqui,
mi caballo favotito de todos los tiempos era winton con el multicampeon juan vicente tovar que dios lo tenga en su gloria
y la yegua gelinotte tambien con el negrito de san jose como tambien se conocia a tovar el mejor jinete de todos los tiempos
De verdad que refresca, recordar aquellos tiempos… El formato de formulario mostrado aquí, ciertamente es de los años 80s. El formulario, cuyo diseño era horizontal, era el de los años 70s y era unicolor (era la época de los inolvidables Debonair Prince, McKenans Gold, Segula C…. y cómo olvidar a Cañonero II). Yo tengo muchísimos años sin sellar siquiera un cuadrito (con decirles que ni conocí siquiera cómo operaba el «Factor 10»). Estoy buscando alguna información que me diga cuánto cuesta un formulario, cómo es la multiplicación y dónde se sella; pero me encontré esta página y… bueno, no está de más dejar un comentario, me han hecho recordar momentos bonitos de cundo fui un productivo «Niño Hípico».
Los FELICITO hermanos!!! Que hermosa iniciativa esta de «Cuando era chamo»… Pero les voy a confesar que al ver esta imagen me he llenado de un triste y poderoso sentimiento de NOSTALGIA y de una irreversible Sensacion de Perdida (que me ha hecho casi llorar)… Yo soy hijo de padres divorciados y uno de los POCOS recuerdos que tengo de mi viejo y yo «haciendo algo juntos» es este: cada domingo sellando nuestro cuadrito de 5y6 en la Redoma de Coche… A finales de los 70’s tendria yo entre 12 y 14 años… Viviamos en otra Vzla que, tristemente, nuestros hijos NO conoceran… Atencion amigos: la vida se nos va en un pestañeo… No perdamos cualquier simple momento para COMPARTIR y llenarlo de Hermosos Recuerdos para nuestros hijos… Bye. Dios los Bendiga!!! Vzla nos necesita UNIDOS…
el amigo valenti, tiene toda la razon, en la decada de los 70, el formulario era rosado y habia que escribir el nombre del caballo sin equivocarse y con su numero, de caer en un error el jugador quedaba sujeto al reglamento, es decir, su formulario podia quedar nulo si escribia mal el nombre de algun ejemplar, para ese entonces habian muchas personas que no sabian ni leer ni escribir y esto dificultaba dicha elaboracion. si mal no recuerdo fue a principio de los ochenta o finales de los 70 que empezo a implementarse el sistema numerico porque era de mas facil comprension y elaboracion y se puso en practica como jugada adicional sin cobro alguno el acertar el marcador de la ultima carrera, es decir, los cinco primeros puestos de la pizarra, luego esto desaparecio y dio paso al sorteo de una vivienda, que si no me equivoco al ganador(porque era una sola persona el o la ganadora) a traves de un sorteo segun el serial ganador del formulario cada domingo, que se efectuaba una vez terminada la ultima carrera, despues todo esto desaparecio. este tipo de incentivo lo eliminaron y hemos podido observar como decayo la jugada del 5 y6. tambien es bueno acotar que cuando no se acertaba los 6, los cuadros que acertaban 5 y4 cobraban y se acumulaba el % para el proximo 5 y6 para los cuadros con seis. tambien es importante resaltar que ahora el factor multiplicador por cinco acabo con el sellado del popular juego,quizas poniendo incentivos podria ser pegar los 6 y la superfecta de la ultima carrera , una vivienda; porque de lo contrario el 5 y6 seguira de capa caida.
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esto me recuerda mucho a mi padre . haciamos los cuadros . el uno y yo otro . el de el era el mas caro llegaba a 8 o 12 bs y el mio era de 4 bs. me recuerdo que tenia que escoger sin mirar el meridiano o los prgramas que daban para ese entonces. nunca llegue a pegar un cuadro ; pero conservo esos bellos momentos que comparti con mi papa.
a mi tambien me mandaba mi tio a cellarle los cuadros, tanto que yo tambien me puse a jugar, ganè dos veces una con 5 caballos, pagaron 50 bolivares y la otra fue por 5067 bolivares, fui con mi papa a cobrarlos y me los quito diciendo «esto es para abrir una cuenta en el banco del caribe» a partir de ese momento deje de jugar a los caballos y empezè a ahorra en mi nueva cuenta. Tengo varios cuadros sin llenar de distintas epocas
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El formulario de los años setenta tenía una presentación «landscape» en vez de «portrait» como el mostrado en la foto. Este último salió a la luz a comienzos de los ochenta, quizás a finales de los 70…
¿En los 70 nada más?. En los 80 también era algo parecido. Yo recuerdo que a veces iba al sellado con mi abuela -Q.E.P.D- a comprar formularios así, y después le cambiaron el diseño y en vez de ser forma vertical como la de la gráfica, lo pusieron de forma horizontal.
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Hola. Ese cuadrito del «5 y 6», lo selle con mi abuelita en enero de 1979, en la panaderia que habia en El Paraiso, Av. Paéz, frente al edificio City Park. Recuerdo mucho las carreras de caballos los domingos, las cuales comentaba «Ali Kan» en el canal 2 «RCTV»
Cuantas cosas han cambiado en 30 años…
Gracias, Javier. Por publicarlo en este magnífico espacio WEB «Cuando era chamo»
Me ha hecho muy felíz compartirlo con todos.
Saludos.
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Yo tengo de vecino al señor que era dueño de ese sellado, del Paraíso se llama Luis Gallipoli
@ Francisco: Mil gracias a ti por enviarnos esta imagen tan original y nostálgica
:mrgreen: tremendo mi pana…ese es de finales de lo 70 y tambien del 80 el anterior tenia otra presentacion lo digo porque trabaje en un sellado de 5 y 6 como listero me encargaba de anotar cada cuadro sellado en una lista de 20 columnas alli anotaba el serial de la maquina, el Nº de reunion,el consecutivo, el valor del formulario y el serial del mismo(notese que todo esto lo imprimia la maquina al lado derecho del formulario ) figurense todo un trabajon desde la 7 am hasta la 1 am por una paga de 40 bs recuerdo de lo que me gane un dia inverti 24 bs y pegue los seis caballos me gane 4000 bs todo un realero ,todavia recuerdo los nombres de los caballos para la epoca: EL Phanton ,pleito,librepensador ,papa viejo,guadamil,valdarim v.gracias amigo por hacerme recordar tan buenos momentos.
…QUIEN NO RECUERDA ESOS CUADRITOS…..RECUERDO QUE SELLE (SIENDO CHAMO) UNOS CUANTOS PERO NUNCA HACIA UNO MAYOR DE 8 BS…LA MAYORIA DE 4 BS. QUE ERA LO MINIMO…LO HACIA SOLO PARA VER CUANTOS PEGABA…UNA VEZ ACERTE 5 Y PAGO TAN POCO QUE CON LO QUE ME DIERON COMPRE CREO QUE FUERON UNA DOCENA DE DULCES EN LA PANADERIA Y DE LOS PEQUEÑOS…..QUE TAL???…QUE BALURDO ……………COMO DECIAMOS ANTES…..
pues este cuadro es del año 87…alli donde dice serial siempre aparecia primero el año..igual que en los LP´s …a mi me encantaba decifrar este tipo de nomenclatura tan larga…algunas veces podia otras no…saludos y gracias por tantisimos recuerdos….lo del catecismo y el libro para aprender a leer me hicieron pero flipar y volar años atras…
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Ciertamente supe que las ccarreras hípicas las transmitía RCTV en los 70, mas yo recuerdo más estas carreras ya en el canal 8 VTV (claro, cuando era decente :sad: ¡ah mundo cuando era mundo!)
YO TENIA UN NEGIA SIENDO CHAMO RECOGIA UN POCO DE FORMULARIO DE LOS VECINOS Y ME PAGABAN UNA PROPINA POR SELLAR ESOS CUADOROS QUE TIME AQUE LLOS
Eso no es nada yo tengo uno lleno , pero que nunca se llegó a sellar , del 88 que tenia el 5y6 y el superhipico. aun lo conservo.
y lo curioso es que tambien tenia 8 bolos -:eek:
De 10 opiniones, dos nombran a sus abuelitas… que curioso, mi linda viejita que dios tenga en su gloria también era full fanática de que le fuese a sellar su cuadrito! Varias veces pegó 5 con montos «mas o menitos» pero nada como el día que al fin pegó 6 y le dieron una platamentazón (era mucho, muuuuucho real), el único beneficiario fuí yo pues diligentemente iba cada domingo a sellarle su cuadrito, ser buen nieto sin esperar nada a cambio si paga, jeje…
diosss…!!!!
que recuerdos, mi abuelita Q.E.P.D, era fanatica de hacer su cuadrito y por un tiempo me mantuvo tambien pendiente de hacer el mio para luego ir al sellado juntos.
tiempos aquellos memorables. por cierto 2 veces pegamos 6 pero los montos fueron bajos porque ganaron los favoritos.
abrazos a todos los colegas de 30 y dele y sigan refrescando nuestras memorias.
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habia un cuadrito anterior en el que se escribian los nombres de los caballos en unos recuadros, no se si alguno se recuerda. Despues vino otro formulario que venía con un juego adicional que se llamaba «marcador», se jugaba en la ultima valida, tenías que adivinar el orden del primero al quinto en esa valida. No crean que soy muy viejo pero mi primera carrera la vi en el año 1969, el clasico «SIMON BOLIVAR», ganado por «DON FLORESTAN», por cierto lo vi desde una subida que habia en la panamericana por que era menor y no me dejaron entrar al hipodromo. Quien se acuerda los jueves nocturnos en la rinconada? Que delicia…….Soy un hípico muy apasionado, pero nada que ver con el hipismo de antaño (que sabrosura). El que tenia puros de carreras era por que de verdad tenia plata, no como ahora que cualquier hijo de la patria tiene uno.
lo mas bonito de este cuadro es que tiene abajo una reflexion importante!! :)
yo conocí el de los 80’s que era todo anaranjadito y horizontal… iba con mi papá todos los domingos en la mañana a comprar pan y a «sellar un cuadrito»… recuerdo que mi papá una vez pegó 5! :D
Me trae buenos recuerdos porque era algo «especial» que hacía con mi papá, al que adoraba en esa época…
Había uno mas viejo que el de la foto. Era en posición vertical y uno tenía que escribir el o los nombres de los caballos que uno seleccionaba. En caso de jugarlos todos, recuerdo que uno escribía «TODOS».
Abajo aparecia un juego llamado, el marcador, que consistía en marcar la llegada de la ultima valida, en estricto orden del primero al quinto y uno se ganaba 100.000 Bs. más lo que pagara el 5 y 6. Estoy hablando de finales de los 60 y comienzos de los 70!!!!
dios que recuerdos, bastante que jugue mis cuadritos de 8 bs, o de 16 cuando mucho, a veces gane , pero mas fue lo perdido, me encantaba ver monitor hipico por el canal 8, aunque al pricipio eran por rctv como bien dijeron por aqui,
mi caballo favotito de todos los tiempos era winton con el multicampeon juan vicente tovar que dios lo tenga en su gloria
y la yegua gelinotte tambien con el negrito de san jose como tambien se conocia a tovar el mejor jinete de todos los tiempos
De verdad que refresca, recordar aquellos tiempos… El formato de formulario mostrado aquí, ciertamente es de los años 80s. El formulario, cuyo diseño era horizontal, era el de los años 70s y era unicolor (era la época de los inolvidables Debonair Prince, McKenans Gold, Segula C…. y cómo olvidar a Cañonero II). Yo tengo muchísimos años sin sellar siquiera un cuadrito (con decirles que ni conocí siquiera cómo operaba el «Factor 10»). Estoy buscando alguna información que me diga cuánto cuesta un formulario, cómo es la multiplicación y dónde se sella; pero me encontré esta página y… bueno, no está de más dejar un comentario, me han hecho recordar momentos bonitos de cundo fui un productivo «Niño Hípico».
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el amigo valenti, tiene toda la razon, en la decada de los 70, el formulario era rosado y habia que escribir el nombre del caballo sin equivocarse y con su numero, de caer en un error el jugador quedaba sujeto al reglamento, es decir, su formulario podia quedar nulo si escribia mal el nombre de algun ejemplar, para ese entonces habian muchas personas que no sabian ni leer ni escribir y esto dificultaba dicha elaboracion. si mal no recuerdo fue a principio de los ochenta o finales de los 70 que empezo a implementarse el sistema numerico porque era de mas facil comprension y elaboracion y se puso en practica como jugada adicional sin cobro alguno el acertar el marcador de la ultima carrera, es decir, los cinco primeros puestos de la pizarra, luego esto desaparecio y dio paso al sorteo de una vivienda, que si no me equivoco al ganador(porque era una sola persona el o la ganadora) a traves de un sorteo segun el serial ganador del formulario cada domingo, que se efectuaba una vez terminada la ultima carrera, despues todo esto desaparecio. este tipo de incentivo lo eliminaron y hemos podido observar como decayo la jugada del 5 y6. tambien es bueno acotar que cuando no se acertaba los 6, los cuadros que acertaban 5 y4 cobraban y se acumulaba el % para el proximo 5 y6 para los cuadros con seis. tambien es importante resaltar que ahora el factor multiplicador por cinco acabo con el sellado del popular juego,quizas poniendo incentivos podria ser pegar los 6 y la superfecta de la ultima carrera , una vivienda; porque de lo contrario el 5 y6 seguira de capa caida.
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esto me recuerda mucho a mi padre . haciamos los cuadros . el uno y yo otro . el de el era el mas caro llegaba a 8 o 12 bs y el mio era de 4 bs. me recuerdo que tenia que escoger sin mirar el meridiano o los prgramas que daban para ese entonces. nunca llegue a pegar un cuadro ; pero conservo esos bellos momentos que comparti con mi papa.
a mi tambien me mandaba mi tio a cellarle los cuadros, tanto que yo tambien me puse a jugar, ganè dos veces una con 5 caballos, pagaron 50 bolivares y la otra fue por 5067 bolivares, fui con mi papa a cobrarlos y me los quito diciendo «esto es para abrir una cuenta en el banco del caribe» a partir de ese momento deje de jugar a los caballos y empezè a ahorra en mi nueva cuenta. Tengo varios cuadros sin llenar de distintas epocas
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